重读Tim案判决书有关部分，感觉不妙。

[加拿大老熊]

今天凌晨重读了Tim案有关部分，感觉不妙，这个判决其实对635人非常不利。
以下的英语部分全部来自6月14日Tim案判决书：
20 The Jobs, Growth and Long-Term Prosperity Act, the Bill currently before Parliament implementing the 2012-2013 budget, amends the IRPA provision governing the processing of FSW applications. If passed, that Bill will amend the IRPA to include section 87.4(1), pursuant to which any outstanding application made before February 27, 2008 which has not received a positive selection decision before March 29, 2012 is terminated. While this would not affect Mr. Liang's application because he has a positive selection decision, this proposal would eliminate approximately 95% of the pre-C50 applications.
上面红字部分说梁东已经在3.29之前获得了评估所以他不受即将出台的一刀切影响，这（似乎）可以看成是梁东胜诉的一个潜在因素。635人都不具备这个因素。
21 Section 87.4(2) also provides that any final Court order made after March 29, 2012, in respect of the terminated applications is of no force and effect.
上面红字（似乎）明确承认该判决受未来C38的制约。

以下连接是完整的判决书：
http://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/en/2012/2012fc758/2012fc758.html

 

[加拿大老熊]

回复: 重读Tim案判决书有关部分，感觉不妙。

沙发

 

[nilson30]

回复: 重读Tim案判决书有关部分，感觉不妙。

别一惊一乍了, 自己可以把自己吓死,大不了不去了。

 

[kevintiger]

回复: 重读Tim案判决书有关部分，感觉不妙。

没有案例代表的我们,仅靠协议是不可靠的;

 

[snowolf2008]

回复: 重读Tim案判决书有关部分，感觉不妙。

这只是s.87.x一厢情愿的结果吧？控诉方未必答应

 

[羽衣蓝格]

回复: 重读Tim案判决书有关部分，感觉不妙。

没有案例代表的我们,仅靠协议是不可靠的;

当初为什么要选一个代表案例，而且与大多数人不是一个类型，这明显是一个失误。

 

[Milky Monkey]

回复: 重读Tim案判决书有关部分，感觉不妙。

Please read the whole thing before suggesting any implication.

The whole purpose of Paragraph 20 and 21 is to lead to Paragraph 22, that the court will not consider the effect of the then draft bill C-38 in this judgment.

TIM's proposition is to move the judge's ruling on the "guided by", and the whole purpose is to avoid this 87.4.

今天凌晨重读了Tim案有关部分，感觉不妙，这个判决其实对635人非常不利。
以下的英语部分全部来自6月14日Tim案判决书：
20 The Jobs, Growth and Long-Term Prosperity Act, the Bill currently before Parliament implementing the 2012-2013 budget, amends the IRPA provision governing the processing of FSW applications. If passed, that Bill will amend the IRPA to include section 87.4(1), pursuant to which any outstanding application made before February 27, 2008 which has not received a positive selection decision before March 29, 2012 is terminated. While this would not affect Mr. Liang's application because he has a positive selection decision, this proposal would eliminate approximately 95% of the pre-C50 applications.
上面红字部分说梁东已经在3.29之前获得了评估所以他不受即将出台的一刀切影响，这（似乎）可以看成是梁东胜诉的一个潜在因素。635人都不具备这个因素。
21 Section 87.4(2) also provides that any final Court order made after March 29, 2012, in respect of the terminated applications is of no force and effect.
上面红字（似乎）明确承认该判决受未来C38的制约。

 

[加拿大老熊]

回复: 重读Tim案判决书有关部分，感觉不妙。

Please read the whole thing before suggesting any implication.

The whole purpose of Paragraph 20 and 21 is to lead to Paragraph 22, that the court will not consider the effect of the then draft bill C-38 in this judgment.

TIM's proposition is to move the judge's ruling on the "guided by", and the whole purpose is to avoid this 87.4.

版主Pre-C50的希望

 

[我是流氓我怕谁]

回复: 重读Tim案判决书有关部分，感觉不妙。

楼主多次断章取义了... 是可乐熊吗?

 

[Milky Monkey]

回复: 重读Tim案判决书有关部分，感觉不妙。

And if we read carefully Paragraph 22, the applicant also sought to rely on this amendment. Why?? That was because TIM wanted to apply for the injunctive measures against the closing of the files, which was rejected by the judge based on the same theory.

Of course, how Justice Barne will consider the now effective 87.4's role in the game is the biggest question, but we have very strong argument of "vetted rights" which was not addressed in the amendments.

 

[我是流氓我怕谁]

回复: 重读Tim案判决书有关部分，感觉不妙。

I fully agree with Milky. "Vested rights" (a typo in Milky's msg) shall be valid unless the amendment clearly highlights it as exclusion.

The reality in Bill C-38 does not abolish our "vested rights" as of the protocol and judge on June 14th.

 

[bondgirlsareforever]

回复: 重读Tim案判决书有关部分，感觉不妙。

今天凌晨重读了Tim案有关部分，感觉不妙，这个判决其实对635人非常不利。
以下的英语部分全部来自6月14日Tim案判决书：
20 The Jobs, Growth and Long-Term Prosperity Act, the Bill currently before Parliament implementing the 2012-2013 budget, amends the IRPA provision governing the processing of FSW applications. If passed, that Bill will amend the IRPA to include section 87.4(1), pursuant to which any outstanding application made before February 27, 2008 which has not received a positive selection decision before March 29, 2012 is terminated. While this would not affect Mr. Liang's application because he has a positive selection decision, this proposal would eliminate approximately 95% of the pre-C50 applications.
上面红字部分说梁东已经在3.29之前获得了评估所以他不受即将出台的一刀切影响，这（似乎）可以看成是梁东胜诉的一个潜在因素。635人都不具备这个因素。
21 Section 87.4(2) also provides that any final Court order made after March 29, 2012, in respect of the terminated applications is of no force and effect.
上面红字（似乎）明确承认该判决受未来C38的制约。

以下连接是完整的判决书：
http://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/en/2012/2012fc758/2012fc758.html

You are simply stupid

 

[加拿大老熊]

回复: 重读Tim案判决书有关部分，感觉不妙。

童鞋们请继续跟贴

 

[eric2008]

回复: 重读Tim案判决书有关部分，感觉不妙。

帮老熊顶

 

[加拿大老熊]

回复: 重读Tim案判决书有关部分，感觉不妙。

请各位童鞋继续发表观点。

 

[fupeide]

回复: 重读Tim案判决书有关部分，感觉不妙。

cic诉讼把大家都变成法律专业的人士了。