美国投资移民 转帖：2013年下半年开始，将不再批准投资区域中心的中国投资人的绿卡吗？
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- 发布时间 2012-10-25
回复: 转帖：2013年下半年开始，将不再批准投资区域中心的中国投资人的绿卡吗？
这个规定也清楚了的说明是中国eb5的排期，根本也不会区分区域中心和非区域中心的项目。马大姐，只能说你的直投，也跟着区域中心栽进去了。
回复: 转帖：2013年下半年开始，将不再批准投资区域中心的中国投资人的绿卡吗？
从国务院签证处发表的数据上，第一次区分了直投(50万和100万)区域中心(50万和100万)的签证使用数量，所以不排除排期只针对50万区域中心类别的投资人，以鼓励其他国家，其他类别的项目的投资人。
从国务院签证处发表的数据上，第一次区分了直投(50万和100万)区域中心(50万和100万)的签证使用数量，所以不排除排期只针对50万区域中心类别的投资人，以鼓励其他国家，其他类别的项目的投资人。
回复: 转帖：2013年下半年开始，将不再批准投资区域中心的中国投资人的绿卡吗？
你能不能，说话客观一点呢？这个表一直都是这么分的，为的是保证在总的配额超过1w的时候，按照先来的原则，区域中心至少有3000个名额。
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Fifth: Employment Creation: 7.1% of the worldwide level, not less than 3,000 of which reserved for investors in a targeted rural or high-unemployment area, and 3,000 set aside for investors in regional centers by Sec. 610 of Pub. L. 102-395.
区域中心项目，不论是50万，还是100万，只有3000个名额。
TEA项目，不论是直投，还是区域中心，可以高于3000个名额。
原则上可以在区域中心的3000个名额上限制中国的投资人，直投的中国投资人可以另算。
国务院签证处的名额限定的最终决定，明年4月左右分晓。
Fifth: Employment Creation: 7.1% of the worldwide level, not less than 3,000 of which reserved for investors in a targeted rural or high-unemployment area, and 3,000 set aside for investors in regional centers by Sec. 610 of Pub. L. 102-395.
区域中心项目，不论是50万，还是100万，只有3000个名额。
TEA项目，不论是直投，还是区域中心，可以高于3000个名额。
原则上可以在区域中心的3000个名额上限制中国的投资人，直投的中国投资人可以另算。
国务院签证处的名额限定的最终决定，明年4月左右分晓。
回复: 转帖：2013年下半年开始，将不再批准投资区域中心的中国投资人的绿卡吗？
其实，我也不怕国务院限制中国投资人的名额，除了中国人外，韩国人，拉美人的市场也不错。在美国，做我这种EB-5 Direct Partnership 的项目方是非常少的，现在我正拓展中国以外的市场。
由于区域中心的项目只有54％的829成功率，我们项目的优势自然就出来了。区域中心栽了，正是我们成功的机会。
Marc S. Hyman JD • Hello Zoe,
It appears that projects such as your Assisted Living Center are well positioned to deliver much higher survival rates.
Good timing !
其实，我也不怕国务院限制中国投资人的名额，除了中国人外，韩国人，拉美人的市场也不错。在美国，做我这种EB-5 Direct Partnership 的项目方是非常少的，现在我正拓展中国以外的市场。
由于区域中心的项目只有54％的829成功率，我们项目的优势自然就出来了。区域中心栽了，正是我们成功的机会。
Marc S. Hyman JD • Hello Zoe,
It appears that projects such as your Assisted Living Center are well positioned to deliver much higher survival rates.
Good timing !
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哪位大仙给解释下实际操作 比如 526 审批速度、划款时间、比如 一个100人老项目批了30个 还剩下的没有配额了 就得等一年了。那一个项目等4-5年也很正常了。到时候项目也黄了，又撤了。
哪位大仙给解释下实际操作 比如 526 审批速度、划款时间、比如 一个100人老项目批了30个 还剩下的没有配额了 就得等一年了。那一个项目等4-5年也很正常了。到时候项目也黄了，又撤了。
回复: 转帖：2013年下半年开始，将不再批准投资区域中心的中国投资人的绿卡吗？
快别胡说八道了。你是不是以为这些人都不懂英文啊？
Set aside是留出来的意思，reserved是预留的意思！
10000个名额中，3000个预留给区域中心，确保TEA地区的EB-5不少于3000个
快别胡说八道了。你是不是以为这些人都不懂英文啊？
Set aside是留出来的意思，reserved是预留的意思！
10000个名额中，3000个预留给区域中心，确保TEA地区的EB-5不少于3000个
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回复: 转帖：2013年下半年开始，将不再批准投资区域中心的中国投资人的绿卡吗？
set aside 3000给区域中心，是说10000中至少有3000个是划给区域中心的，别的所谓自己投资是不可能占到这3000个的。
同样的定义，出现在移民局65000个H1B工作签证的配额中
Please note that up to 6,800 visas are set aside from the cap of 65,000 during each fiscal year for the H-1B1 program under the terms of the legislation implementing the U.S.-Chile and U.S.-Singapore Free Trade Agreements
智力和新加坡人，每年至少分6800个工作签证，剩给全世界的工作签证只有65000-6800=58200个。
如果你对这个还有疑问，你就看看中文的翻译（http://baike.baidu.com/view/3598292.htm）
如果你还有疑问，那你就找个未名移民版的人问问；如果你还硬要说区域中心只有3000个名额，那我也没法了
set aside 3000给区域中心，是说10000中至少有3000个是划给区域中心的，别的所谓自己投资是不可能占到这3000个的。
同样的定义，出现在移民局65000个H1B工作签证的配额中
Please note that up to 6,800 visas are set aside from the cap of 65,000 during each fiscal year for the H-1B1 program under the terms of the legislation implementing the U.S.-Chile and U.S.-Singapore Free Trade Agreements
智力和新加坡人，每年至少分6800个工作签证，剩给全世界的工作签证只有65000-6800=58200个。
如果你对这个还有疑问，你就看看中文的翻译（http://baike.baidu.com/view/3598292.htm）
如果你还有疑问，那你就找个未名移民版的人问问；如果你还硬要说区域中心只有3000个名额，那我也没法了
回复: 转帖：2013年下半年开始，将不再批准投资区域中心的中国投资人的绿卡吗？
没意义争这些。我反正不只靠中国的投资人吃饭，真正要栽的是那些只能靠中国投资人活的中介和区域中心。
作为项目方，我可以招的投资人在世界各地。我们的项目模式也被美国业界人士认同，区域中心的54％成功率的事实只会让更多各国的投资人认清区域中心的本来面目。
没意义争这些。我反正不只靠中国的投资人吃饭，真正要栽的是那些只能靠中国投资人活的中介和区域中心。
作为项目方，我可以招的投资人在世界各地。我们的项目模式也被美国业界人士认同，区域中心的54％成功率的事实只会让更多各国的投资人认清区域中心的本来面目。
回复: 转帖：2013年下半年开始，将不再批准投资区域中心的中国投资人的绿卡吗？
又见马大姐做预测。。。
又见马大姐做预测。。。
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IIUSA Webinar (FRI 12/7 2-330PM) - feat. US Department of State Chief of Visa Controls
With the unprecedented overseas wealth, economic opportunity in the U.S., and hard work of the Regional Center industry, the EB-5 Program is experiencing exponential growth and building a record of delivering benefits. Over 7,600 in FY2012, up from 3,500+ in FY2011. With this growth and success come new realities for the EB-5 industry, however. The U.S. immigration and visa allocation system has a limited number of total visas available per program, and per country within each program (known as "per country caps"). These limits are predicted to become relevant for Chinese EB-5 applicants during the current fiscal year (FY).
A "cut-off date" may be established during the second half of FY2013 (the current FY) for Chinese EB-5 visa applicants due trends of high and growing demand. The approximately 10,000 allocated annually are on pace to be utilized in full during FY2013. The Department of State has now formally issued the alert in its December 2012 Visa Bulletin, stating:
*The following advisory is based strictly on the current demand situation. Since demand patterns can (& sometimes do) change over time, this should be considered a worst case scenario at this point.
It appears likely that a cut-off date will need to be established for the China Employment Fifth preference category at some point during second half of fiscal year 2013. Such action would be delayed as long as possible, since while number use may be excessive over a 1 to 5 month period, it could average out to an acceptable level over a longer (e.g., 4 to 9 month) period. This would be the first time a cut-off date has been established in this category, which is why readers are being provided with maximum amount of advance notice on the possibility.
The above projections for the Family and Employment categories are for what could happen during each of the next few months based on current applicant demand patterns. The determination of the actual monthly cut-off dates is subject to fluctuations in applicant demand and a number of other variables which can change at any time. Those categories with a “Current” projection will remain so for the foreseeable future, with the possible exception of the China Employment Fifth preference category mentioned above.
IIUSA Webinar (FRI 12/7 2-330PM) - feat. US Department of State Chief of Visa Controls
With the unprecedented overseas wealth, economic opportunity in the U.S., and hard work of the Regional Center industry, the EB-5 Program is experiencing exponential growth and building a record of delivering benefits. Over 7,600 in FY2012, up from 3,500+ in FY2011. With this growth and success come new realities for the EB-5 industry, however. The U.S. immigration and visa allocation system has a limited number of total visas available per program, and per country within each program (known as "per country caps"). These limits are predicted to become relevant for Chinese EB-5 applicants during the current fiscal year (FY).
A "cut-off date" may be established during the second half of FY2013 (the current FY) for Chinese EB-5 visa applicants due trends of high and growing demand. The approximately 10,000 allocated annually are on pace to be utilized in full during FY2013. The Department of State has now formally issued the alert in its December 2012 Visa Bulletin, stating:
*The following advisory is based strictly on the current demand situation. Since demand patterns can (& sometimes do) change over time, this should be considered a worst case scenario at this point.
It appears likely that a cut-off date will need to be established for the China Employment Fifth preference category at some point during second half of fiscal year 2013. Such action would be delayed as long as possible, since while number use may be excessive over a 1 to 5 month period, it could average out to an acceptable level over a longer (e.g., 4 to 9 month) period. This would be the first time a cut-off date has been established in this category, which is why readers are being provided with maximum amount of advance notice on the possibility.
The above projections for the Family and Employment categories are for what could happen during each of the next few months based on current applicant demand patterns. The determination of the actual monthly cut-off dates is subject to fluctuations in applicant demand and a number of other variables which can change at any time. Those categories with a “Current” projection will remain so for the foreseeable future, with the possible exception of the China Employment Fifth preference category mentioned above.
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“黑马”伺机将自己标榜成保护无辜群众被利用的高尚人物，通过污蔑全部中介公司、知名开发商，EB-5专家，律师和区域中心，来“保护潜在EB-5者利益”的所谓自我提升行为，将凭空捏造的谎言作为证据，无端攻击区域中心项目，其目的明显是为了其自身或经济利益。
我们在此严正质疑，黑马作为项目方，是否是站在投资者这边的，并且是否是客观地单纯地为保护投资者而做出此行为。
关于W酒店：
投资者和移民局都清楚地知道EB-5资金进入酒吧和餐馆的路径（在此注明：EB-5有限合伙企业特别根据酒店和餐馆来命名），并且2个实体都已经开业。项目律师和移民局主席Alejandro Mayorkas关于适用EB-5资金代替过桥融资进行过讨论。如果“黑马”花过时间，她就会知道Mayorkas最近备忘录的草稿其中特地批准了过桥融资安排。对于W酒店最终移民局批准了方案和最终岗位创造。最后，所有的I-526申请都获得批准，且投资者都得到了绿卡。
关于就业报告：
黑马多次不知羞耻地展示了其对于EB-5法规和EB-5经济学知识的无知，以及涉及创造就业机会相关知识匮乏的事实。
黑马多次声称区域中心经济学家的就业报告是编凑伪造的无耻诽谤，多次侮辱了拥有30多年经验的美国最杰出EB-5经济学家之一Evans博士。Evans博士是受教于常春藤联盟的经济学家以及前大学教授，Evans博士已经撰写了超过100本经美国移民局批准的EB-5经济学丛书
“黑马”伺机将自己标榜成保护无辜群众被利用的高尚人物，通过污蔑全部中介公司、知名开发商，EB-5专家，律师和区域中心，来“保护潜在EB-5者利益”的所谓自我提升行为，将凭空捏造的谎言作为证据，无端攻击区域中心项目，其目的明显是为了其自身或经济利益。
我们在此严正质疑，黑马作为项目方，是否是站在投资者这边的，并且是否是客观地单纯地为保护投资者而做出此行为。
关于W酒店：
投资者和移民局都清楚地知道EB-5资金进入酒吧和餐馆的路径（在此注明：EB-5有限合伙企业特别根据酒店和餐馆来命名），并且2个实体都已经开业。项目律师和移民局主席Alejandro Mayorkas关于适用EB-5资金代替过桥融资进行过讨论。如果“黑马”花过时间，她就会知道Mayorkas最近备忘录的草稿其中特地批准了过桥融资安排。对于W酒店最终移民局批准了方案和最终岗位创造。最后，所有的I-526申请都获得批准，且投资者都得到了绿卡。
关于就业报告：
黑马多次不知羞耻地展示了其对于EB-5法规和EB-5经济学知识的无知，以及涉及创造就业机会相关知识匮乏的事实。
黑马多次声称区域中心经济学家的就业报告是编凑伪造的无耻诽谤，多次侮辱了拥有30多年经验的美国最杰出EB-5经济学家之一Evans博士。Evans博士是受教于常春藤联盟的经济学家以及前大学教授，Evans博士已经撰写了超过100本经美国移民局批准的EB-5经济学丛书
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说了很多 都是预测。哪位大侠给打听下南达州北方牛肉加工厂项目。为啥剩几个不批了。
说了很多 都是预测。哪位大侠给打听下南达州北方牛肉加工厂项目。为啥剩几个不批了。
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国务院签证处官员12／7日亲自详解2013年中国投资人要面对的签证排期问题
With the unprecedented overseas wealth, economic opportunity in the U.S., and hard work of the Regional Center industry, the EB-5 Program is experiencing exponential growth and building a record of delivering benefits. Over 7,600 in FY2012, up from 3,500+ in FY2011. With this growth and success come new realities for the EB-5 industry, however. The U.S. immigration and visa allocation system has a limited number of total visas available per program, and per country within each program (known as "per country caps"). These limits are predicted to become relevant for Chinese EB-5 applicants during the current fiscal year (FY).
Those who attended the IIUSA EB-5 Advocacy Conference in DC in October 2012, were first alerted to this issue by Conference Guest of Honor Charles Oppenheim, Chief of Visa Controls, U.S. Department of State, who stated that a "cut-off date" may be established during the second half of FY2013 for Chinese EB-5 visa applicants due trends of high and growing demand. The approximately 10,000 allocated annually are on pace to be utilized in full during FY2013. The Department of State has now formally issued the alert in its December 2012 Visa Bulletin. In order to plan accordingly, the Regional Center industry will need to develop an understanding of this issue from multiple perspectives.
What needs to be added to EB-5 investment offering documents to address this? How long will investors with approved I-526 petitions have to wait before applying for their visa? What impact will this have on the source of EB-5 investment capital? Is this a permanent issue for the Program?
国务院签证处官员12／7日亲自详解2013年中国投资人要面对的签证排期问题
With the unprecedented overseas wealth, economic opportunity in the U.S., and hard work of the Regional Center industry, the EB-5 Program is experiencing exponential growth and building a record of delivering benefits. Over 7,600 in FY2012, up from 3,500+ in FY2011. With this growth and success come new realities for the EB-5 industry, however. The U.S. immigration and visa allocation system has a limited number of total visas available per program, and per country within each program (known as "per country caps"). These limits are predicted to become relevant for Chinese EB-5 applicants during the current fiscal year (FY).
Those who attended the IIUSA EB-5 Advocacy Conference in DC in October 2012, were first alerted to this issue by Conference Guest of Honor Charles Oppenheim, Chief of Visa Controls, U.S. Department of State, who stated that a "cut-off date" may be established during the second half of FY2013 for Chinese EB-5 visa applicants due trends of high and growing demand. The approximately 10,000 allocated annually are on pace to be utilized in full during FY2013. The Department of State has now formally issued the alert in its December 2012 Visa Bulletin. In order to plan accordingly, the Regional Center industry will need to develop an understanding of this issue from multiple perspectives.
What needs to be added to EB-5 investment offering documents to address this? How long will investors with approved I-526 petitions have to wait before applying for their visa? What impact will this have on the source of EB-5 investment capital? Is this a permanent issue for the Program?
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提交526申请未批的投资人，20％都不会通过， 就没有必要排期。
提交526申请未批的投资人，90％为区域中心项目，批准时间是一年以上，什么时候能批准，难确定。排期会浪费绿卡名额。
已经批准526申请的投资人，在2012年已经达到3677, 按平均一家三口人算，已经超过一年10000个签证名额。所以526批准的投资人需要排期。
估计排期只会影响到最后一个季度(6－9月)批准的投资人。
829申请不受排期影响。
提交526申请未批的投资人，20％都不会通过， 就没有必要排期。
提交526申请未批的投资人，90％为区域中心项目，批准时间是一年以上，什么时候能批准，难确定。排期会浪费绿卡名额。
已经批准526申请的投资人，在2012年已经达到3677, 按平均一家三口人算，已经超过一年10000个签证名额。所以526批准的投资人需要排期。
估计排期只会影响到最后一个季度(6－9月)批准的投资人。
829申请不受排期影响。
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好开心 2010年至今 到现在526 还没批 又赶上排期 这事办的好开心哦
好开心 2010年至今 到现在526 还没批 又赶上排期 这事办的好开心哦
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