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COVID-19 – The Fight for a Cure: One Gigantic Western Pharma Rip-Off
By Peter Koenig
Global Research, March 24, 2020
Region: Asia, USA
Theme: Science and Medicine


A few days ago, Dr. Tedros, the Director General of the World Health Organization (WHO) repeated what he said already a few weeks ago, that there are about 20 pharmaceutical laboratories throughout the world that are developing a vaccine for the novel coronavirus, named COVID-19, also called 2019-nCOV, or SARS-CoV-2. For the layman, it is just a stronger mutation of the Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) virus, that broke out in 2002 / 2003, also in China. To be sure, a mutation made in a laboratory. In a US high-security biological warfare laboratory. In other words, both SARS and COVID-19 – among many other bio-war agents – were made in the US.
And now, the chaotic western-style race of private corporations for a vaccine wanting to outdo one another, has begun.
Who is first to develop a vaccine? – It’s a fierce competition to establish a patent, a monopoly – for a possibly multi trillion-dollar business. Its western neoliberal capitalism at its very worst – or best, depending on the angle from where one looks.
There are no words to describe this chaotic fever for profit over human wellbeing. It has nothing to do with health, with healing sick and suffering, possibly dying people. It’s all about money. Hundreds of billions, if not trillion of profit for the pharmaceutical oligarch and their associated research laboratories and enterprises. And even more so, if the WHO-declared “pandemic” (sic) will prompt a forced vaccination campaign, enhanced by military and police surveillance.
Let’s put COVID-19 in context. As of 23 March 2020 (18:33 GMT), and according to WHO statistics, reported worldwide cases are 372,572; deaths 16,313; recovered 101,373 – a death rate of 4.37%. However, these figures must be considered with caution. In many countries, especially developing economies, accurate testing may be a problem. Test kits are often not available, or not reliable. So, may people who go to the doctor with some flu symptoms are possibly falsely diagnosed as COVID-19 victims, as it serves the publicity hype.
Miscalculations and false reporting may even occur in the United States. Mr. Robert Redfield, CEO of the US Center for Disease Control (CDC), testified before Congress that CDC does no longer carry out regular tests, that these were carried out at State-level and only in extreme cases. See also this reference form the LA Times of California measures and directives.
By comparison, the US CDC estimates that in the 2019 / 2020 flu season in the US alone, some 38 to 54 million people may catch the common flu, and 23,000 to 59,000 may die from it. The vast majority of these deaths will be elderly people above 70-years of age and many of them with pre-health conditions and /or pre-existing respiratory problems. This is pretty much the same disease and death pattern as with COVID-19. Expanding these common flu figures linearly on a worldwide scale would result in hundreds of thousands of flu deaths. In the particularly strong 2017-2018 US flu season, an estimated 60,000 people died from the flu in the US alone. The reader may himself judge whether WHO was justified declaring COVID-19 a “pandemic” — or whether there may have been – just perhaps – another agenda behind it?
The vaccine that might eventually be applied to COVID-19, may most likely no longer be valid for the next coronavirus outbreak – which, also according to Mr. Redfield, CDC, will most probably occur. A later virus may most certainly have mutated. It’s quite similar to the common flu virus. In fact, the annually reoccurring common flu virus contains a proportion of 10% to 15% (some times more) of coronaviruses.
The effectiveness of the annual flu vaccines is on average less than 50%, not to mention all the potential harmful side effects, they carry along. COVID-19 is very similar to influenza. Will a corona virus vaccine be equally weak in protecting a potential patient from a future infection?
Cooperation instead of competition, doesn’t occur in the west. It’s all profit-driven. With a number of different vaccines from different pharma giants coming on the market, who will tell the patient which one is the best, most suitable for the patient’s condition? It smells like an utter chaotic scam.
The real question is – are vaccines – or a vaccine – even necessary? Maybe – maybe not. The production of vaccines is pushed for profit motives and for an important political agenda for a New World Order – that has been planned to change human life as we know it, or thought we knew it. See further explanations below.
Vaccines don’t heal, they may prevent the virus from hitting as hard as it might otherwise do, or not at all, depending on the age, physical and health condition of a person. Worldwide statistics show that usually a person up to the age of 40 or 50, who is infected by the COVID-19, has none or only slight symptoms, nothing to worry about.
Should symptoms show up, staying home, resting and using traditional, age-old medicine, the same that might be used for the common flu, might be enough to get rid of the virus. This might resolve the disease within one or two weeks. Then, the person will be naturally “vaccinated” against this strand of coronavirus. Elderly people above 65 or 70 may be more at risk and special attention may be in order – separated from crowds, isolation during a two-week quarantine (the incubation period), while the rest of society goes on with life as normal as possible, thereby reducing the huge cost to society.
China has brought the COVID-19 pandemic under control without a vaccine, but using common sense and traditional, rather inexpensive medication. What are these regular medicines that are effective and have helped to bring COVID-19 under control in China, without a vaccine?
The “Children’s Health Defense” (the Children’s Defense Fund – CDF), an American NGO, founded 1973 by Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., depicts the current power struggle in France between health official and the country’s leading experts in virology, as representative for the worldwide fight between corporate pharma supported by (bought) governments and international organizations, such as WHO – and renowned scientists. If laid open, it is an eye-opener. See full CDF study.
French Professor Didier Raoult, who is one of the world’s top 5 scientists on communicable diseases, argued that the approach of mass quarantine is both inefficient and outdated and that large-scale testing and treatment of suspected cases achieves far better results.
Early on, Dr. Raoult suggested the use of hydroxychloroquine (Chloroquine or Plaquenil), a well-known, simple, and inexpensive drug, also used to fight Malaria, and that has shown efficacy with previous coronaviruses such as SARS. By mid-February 2020, clinical trials at his institute and in China already confirmed that the drug could reduce the viral load and bring spectacular improvement. The Chinese scientists published their first trials on more than 100 patients and announced that the Chinese National Health Commission would recommend Chloroquine in their new guidelines to treat Covid-19.

In addition, China and Cuba are working together with the use of Interferon Alpha 2B, a highly efficient anti-viral drug developed in Cuba some 39 years, but little known to the world, because of the US imposed embargo on anything from Cuba. Interferon has also proven to be very effective in fighting COVID-19 and is now produced in a joint-venture in China.
Chinese researchers in cooperation with Cuban scientists are also developing a vaccine which may soon be ready for testing. In contrast to the west, working exclusively on profit-motives, the Chinese-Cuban vaccine would be made available at low cost to the entire world.
Other simple, but effective remedies include the use of heavy doses of Vitamin C, as well as Vitamin D3, or more generally the use of Micronutrients essential to fight infections, include vitamins A, B, C, D, and E.
Another remedy that has been used for thousands of years by ancient Chinese, Romans and Egyptians, are Colloidal silver products. They come in forms to be administered as a liquid by mouth, or injected, or applied to the skin. Colloidal silver products are boosting the immune system, fighting bacteria and viruses, and have been used for treating cancer, HIV/AIDS, shingles, herpes, eye ailments, prostatitis – and COVID-19.
Yet another simple and inexpensive remedy, to be used in combination with others, is menthol-based “Mentholatum”. It’s used for common flu and cold symptoms. Rubbed on and around the nose, it acts as a disinfectant and prevents germs to enter the respiratory track.
Northern Italy and New Orleans report that an unusual number of patients had to be hospitalized in Intensive Care Units (ICU) and be put 24×7 on a 90% strength respirator, with some of them remaining unresponsive, going into respiratory failure. The reported death rate is about 40%. The condition is called acute respiratory distress syndrome, ARDS. That means the lungs are filled with fluid. When this description of ARDS episodes applies, Dr. Raoult and other medical colleagues recommend COVID-19 patients to “sleep sitting up” until they are cured. This helps drain the liquid out of the lungs. The method has been known to work successfully since it was first documented during the 1918 Spanish Flu epidemic.
After the Lockdown: A Global Coronavirus Vaccination Program…
As you may expect, if you look up any of these alternative cures on internet – internet controlled by Google and the Big Corporatocracy, including the pharmaceuticals, will logically advise you against using them. At best they will tell you that these products or methods have not proven effective, and at worst, that they may be harmful. Don’t believe it. None of these products or methods are harmful. Remember, some of them have been used as natural remedies for thousands of years. And remember, China has successfully come to grips with COVID-19, using some of these relatively simple and inexpensive medications.
Unfortunately, few doctors are aware of these practical, simple and inexpensive remedies. They are safe and more often than not successful. The media, under pressure from the pharma giants and the compliant government agencies, have been requested to censoring such valuable information. The negligence or failure, to make such easily accessible remedies public knowledge is killing people.
Now, let’s cut to the chase, to what’s behind it all – behind the extraordinary monstrous media propaganda hype that is bringing down the entire (western) world’s socioeconomic system, creating untold misery, famine, and death. A misery with suffering potentially by orders of magnitude worse than the Big Depression of 1928 / 1929 and the subsequent years.
If anybody had any doubts up to now, where the virus originated, the truth was dropped surreptitiously, a slip of the tongue or on purpose, by Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, when he addressed the Nation on 21 March on COVID-19, he said, “This is not about retribution, we are in a live exercise here…”, meaning military exercise, or a war game.
President Trump by Pompeo’s side was whispering, “you should have let us know”. Whatever that means. It’s hard to believe that Mr. Trump didn’t know. But these are the vagaries of American politics, even on a death-serious subject like the new coronavirus breakout. See here with a brief video. See this also.

This live (military) exercise has unimaginable worldwide implications which may completely transform our lives. It’s economic warfare. Almost every country on this planet is on some kind of a lock-down, a quarantine of sorts for an as of yet undetermined period, with businesses closed, shops and restaurants shot, construction sites halted, people working from home if they can, being in the streets is forbidden, in many countries under police and military surveillance, with cases of people being beaten up and hand-cuffed, if they have no good explanation.
The President Macron-inspired French police is especially known for its uncontrolled brutality fighting the Yellow Vests. They have already demonstrated their same despise for their fellow citizens, when they are in the streets, even food shopping, without a special permit.
Borders are shot, airlines are grounded, tourism comes to a screeching halt, basically from one day to the other, stranded throughout the world. With a few exceptions, Germany and France are rare ones, they organize return flights for their citizens abroad. Otherwise, with uncertain flight departures, over-booked and over-crowded flights, the stranded tourists have hardly a chance to return home soon.
The socioeconomic cost is astronomical. In the multi-quadrillion, or quintillion; numbers with so many zeros they make you dizzy. This calamity can only partly be valued with numbers, and not now, as the world’s lock-down continues – with a social cost that cannot be valued. The dive of the stock market by about 30% – a typical bonanza for forward speculators and Big Finance, Big Banking, with multi-trillion-dollar losses for the small investors.
Millions, if not hundreds of millions of small and medium size businesses going broke, unemployment going rampant, in the hundreds of millions, throughout the world, and the poorest of the poor, especially in developing countries, who are either unemployed or survive on small hourly or day-to-day jobs – they have no income, cannot buy the basics for survival – some of them may die from famine, others may commit suicide, others convert to crime. This is Greece by a factor of thousand, or worse.
Then, there is a moral and societal breakdown from a forced quarantine, for which there is no clear end in sight. This creates fear and anxieties, frustration and anger. For many it’s like solitary confinement – all of which is bad for health, and lowers the immune defense system. Just what those who pull the strings want.
So, whom does this live (military) exercise serve? – First one would assume its destined to break China’s back, as China is the up-and-coming economic power. It is true, China’s economy has suffered enormously, with about 60% to 70% of all production stopped for the first two months this year, the time of the COVID-19 outbreak and peak, meaning a significant plunge of China’s GDP, maybe as much as 40% for January and February 2020.
However, China has the corona virus now firmly under control. And China being China, her economy is recovering fast and may soon be back to what it was in December 2019. In fact, despite the significant impact of COVID-19, China’s economy may soon overtake that of the self-styled empire, the United States of America. China’s currency the yuan, is solidly backed by a strong economy and by gold, and is slated to become the world’s chief reserve currency, replacing the US-dollar, which had that role for the last 100 years. When that happens, the US hegemony is doomed.
It’s more. This attack on China is actually backfiring big time. China is the supply chain for almost everything for the west. To increase corporate profits, the US and other western countries have outsourced almost everything to low-cost labor China. This concerns not only high technology electronics, but also medication and medical equipment. About 80% and ingredients to produce medication come from China. For antibiotics the proportion is about 90%.
With much of Chinese production halted for almost 2 months, the delivery lag is enormous.
A plan has been on the drawing board for the last few years, dictated by the obscure clan, or “Deep Dark State”, and designed by its minions, who expect to be generously rewarded in one way or another. Or, you may put it this way, the absence of punishment and torture is also a form of reward.
Universal Vaccination
First, there is an enormous drive towards universal vaccination, because vaccination will be the cornerstone of all that follows, namely a universally imposed electronic identification of every person on the planet. And what is best suited to force down a vaccination program? – A pandemic, of course, with people being made more scared every day. The fear factor is key. It is being increased by a time-undetermined quarantine and by a constant drip-by-drip indoctrination of bad news on the COVID-19 front. Every day the pace of increasing numbers of infected people and those who died, accelerates, increasing fear and anxiety.
The time will come, when people will literally scream for help. They want a police and military state to protect them – from the virus, I guess – and they want to be vaccinated. They don’t care nor ask what is the cocktail that is being injected in their body and what its long-term implications may be. For example, the vaccination cocktail could serve to reduce women and men’s fertility, or cause long-term neurological defects that can even be passed on to next generations. People with fear just want to sleep at ease, being vaccinated. They don’t care – nor do they want to know – that along with the vaccine could be a nano-chip injected that will contain all their personal data, from health records to bank accounts – and can be electronically remote-controlled.
It goes without saying, our monetary system is planned to be fully electronic, no more cash – cash is poison – or as WHO’s Director General recently warned, not verbatim, but with that meaning, cash is dangerous for infections, paper money and coins may carry deadly viruses – thereby paving the way for full digitization of our monetary system. This has, indeed, already been tested over the past few years, mainly in Scandinavian countries, where entire department stores refuse to accept cash. In response to the WHO DG’s recommendation, some shops and restaurants in Germany refuse to accept cash.
The universal vaccination and electronic ID go together and will first be tested in a few developing countries. Bangladesh is one of them. The vaccination program is the platform for the mega-changes the New World Order (NOW), or the One World Order (OWO) wants to bring about. This, in addition to the enormous money-making bonanza.
An almost unknown agency called Agenda ID2020 is behind all this, monitoring, directing and adjusting the implementation of the various programs – that are supposed to eventually lead to Full Spectrum Dominance. For more details, see also the recent article on the dangers of Agenda ID2020.
Behind this elaborate and complex network of things, appears time and again, one prominent name: Bill Gates, the Bill and Melinda Gate’s Foundation. Bill Gates has been funding vaccination programs in Africa for decades. And Bill Gates and the Rockefellers make no secret that one of their ultimate goal for planet earth is a drastic population reduction.

How the Vaccination Research and Production is supposed to work.
How will this elaborate and complex business of creating vaccines and implementing vaccine campaign work? As most official activities that basically are government responsibilities are privatized and outsourced, they become complex, chaotic at times and inefficient. In the case of the west, the US pretends to take the lead, but will also assign responsibilities to European pharma-labs.
The National Institute of Health (NIH) has overall responsibility for national health research and program implementation. NIH’s Director is Anthony Fauci. The Institute was created in 1955. Under NIH, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), one of 27 institutes, reporting to NIH, is responsible for vaccination programs. NIAD’s mission is to conduct basic and applied research to better understand, treat and prevent infectious, immunologic and allergic diseases. NIAD has outsourced the vaccination program to the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI).
CEPI was formed by the WEF (World Economic Forum) in Davos in January 2017. It was founded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation (BMGF) and the London-based Welcome Trust, created in 1936, but including now as members several European countries and the European Union (EU). The BMGF made a first infusion to CEPI of US$ 460 million. CEPI also receives funding from Norway and India and is also heavily supported by the pharma-industry.
According to CEPI’s website, CEPI has appealed for US$ 2 billion to support the development of a vaccine for COVID-19 and to expand the number of vaccine candidates to increase the chances of success and to fund the clinical trials for these candidate vaccines. CEPI’s ambition is to have at least three vaccine candidates, which could be submitted to regulatory authorities for licensing for general use/use in outbreaks.
“Governments around the world will need to invest billions of euros more in coronavirus vaccine development, to take forward some promising candidates that are emerging. – It’s a very risky business – everything is being done in parallel, you’re not building on the expertise of others – but good progress is being made,” said Melanie Saville, director of vaccine research and development at CEPI.
CEPI has already some preselected international pharma corporations to research and work on a COVID-19 vaccine. They include the biotech “Moderna” in Seattle, not far from the Microsoft Headquarters – also a Bill Gates creation; the biotech lab Inovio, the University of Queensland, Australia, and the Germans, BioNTech and CureVac.
From the outset it looks that Moderna, CureVac and BioNTech are best suited to produce fast a vaccine, because according to a Health and Science report, published on March 17, 2020, “all three of these firms specialize in messenger RNA (mRNA) therapeutics. These mRNA molecules are used to instruct the body to produce its own immune response to fight a range of different diseases. This type of vaccine can potentially be developed and produced more quickly than traditional vaccines.”
Enters GAVI – the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization has also been created by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. It is a global health partnership of public and private sector organizations, dedicated to “immunization for all”. GAVI is supported by WHO, and needless to say, its main partners and sponsors are the pharma-industry. GAVI has already announced it needs billions of dollars to support its COVID-19 vaccination program. In June 2020, the UK Government will sponsor a donor conference in support of GAVI’s COVID-19 vaccination program, expecting to raise US$ 7.3 billion.
From this maze of overlapping organizations, activities and unclear responsibilities, the money-flow is likely going to be a crisscross that nobody can follow. Accountability on a large scale will be lost.

As to the output – hopefully a vaccine – or several vaccines. For the layman and potential patient, it will be a matter of luck (or bad luck) what cocktail of biological substances will be injected into his or her body. In any case, the long-term outcome, is unpredictable. Remember, Bill Gates has been pursuing during the last fifteen or twenty years his own very special agenda. It is unlikely he will abandon it now. Rather COVID-19 and the ensuing vaccination program will allow him to enhance it.
Concluding – it is amply clear that this is a huge money-making and public-rip-off proposition by the pharma industry. What makes this multi-billion-dollar scam even worse, is that it has an official rubber-stamp, by being supported by western governments and international organizations, foremost WHO, UNICEF and the World Bank.
This may be the last opportunity for the elite, the 0.1%, to shuffle social capital and worker funded assets from the bottom to the top, before we enter an era of total control through electromagnetic fields (EMF), managed by the minions of the 0.1% and with 5G / 6G technology, where we, the remaining humans may have become mere tele-guided robots.
It is by now a pipe dream to believe that the world may continue as it did until the end of the last decade. It would be too much of a coincidence that Agenda ID2020 started activating its evil programs exactly at the beginning of the decade 2020. Unfortunately, it is also a far-away dream that China and Cuba could lead the way for finding a cure for the most likely recurring coronavirus in one mutation or another – including but not exclusively, using traditional methods and remedies that have proven successful in the current battle to control COVID-19.
There are draconian measures on the way, and we may just pray that they fail, or that we, the people, awake in time and in sufficient numbers – a critical mass – and find back to our innermost voice and soul – solidarity for each other that gives us strength to fight this Luciferian monster.
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这种文章太多,你找哪种观点的都有,你选择相信谁,谁在你心里就有理。

我的观点如下:

如果有一天,某个国家主动认了,不是被迫的,那大约就是真的。

否则,一团迷雾。
 
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这种文章太多,你找哪种观点的都有,你选择相信谁,谁在你心里就有理。

我的观点如下:

如果有一天,某个国家主动认了,不是被迫的,那大约就是真的。

否则,一团迷雾。
911的真相估计很难主动认了
这个病毒真相也一样
对老百姓来说,死都死了,真相找到了能咋地
 
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好文!有人能愿意指出皇帝什么衣服都没穿,值得佩服。


疫情爆发初期,国外对中国政府采取的紧急措施横加指责,称之为对人身自由的剥夺,是不民主不道德的行为。事到如今,意大利、英国、美国等国家情况岌岌可危,皆因没有提早果断行动才酿成现在的局面,试问这样的做法是“民主”还是愚蠢呢?中国能及时地控制住疫情,为世界其他国家争取到时间,没有人称赞也就罢了,还被污蔑成掩盖消息耽误他国行动,还将病毒的名字用中国来代称。最可悲的是,这种情况下还有一些中国人在骂自己的国家,不知道他们的想法是什么。
 
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中国的确诊数据和死亡人数肯定有水分,
其实,目前这种情况在意大利、西班牙和美国也存在!
同样的事,
为什么民众会对中国强烈质疑,
而对西方国家发生同样的事却报以宽容的理解?
是因为性质上中国政府属于刻意隐瞒
而西方国家属于工作失误或无能为力?
值得深思!
因为如果加拿大防疫部门上报人传人,特鲁多绝不敢让卫生官宣布没有人传人。他和川普的错误是,认为虽然人传人,但可以控制住,没有像韩国那样给力。
大陆以外的华人,欧美的普通人不买大陆宣传的帐,更大的原因是,你可以在这里发表跟特鲁多不一样的看法,你不会被训诫,不会被删帖。

你到微信上发表个看法试试,你告诉人家美国政府加拿大政府英国政府在救助公民为中小企业扶困,立马有人说你造谣,说他们饮鸩止渴。你说那中国政府也饮鸩止渴一下嘛,武汉人民说不定喜欢,然后,你就被删帖了。如果你经常妄议中央,你可能要被请去喝茶

在这里,你可以通过政府直播新闻发布了解情况,你可以通过各大主流媒体的报道和评论,在加上你的常识,做出基本判断。但是你对中国就没有办法了,你只能通过CCTV,新华社,而他们都姓党,你还能通过亲朋好友,可都是零散的消息,于是,你拿不到情况,你不知道危险在哪里,久了,你可能只好放弃,听党妹说啥就是啥了。这是国内大多数人的光景

老百姓常常讲,是骡子是马拉出来遛一遛。你看,人家川普就敢出来遛一遛,人民领袖就不敢,所以人家说他是骡子,他得怪自己
 
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911的真相估计很难主动认了
这个病毒真相也一样
对老百姓来说,死都死了,真相找到了能咋地
老百姓都是自己的小算盘,有酒有肉有大麻,pornhub 不屏蔽,袋里有钱可happy, 足以
 
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中国的确诊数据和死亡人数肯定有水分,
其实,目前这种情况在意大利、西班牙和美国也存在!
同样的事,
为什么民众会对中国强烈质疑,
而对西方国家发生同样的事却报以宽容的理解?
是因为性质上中国政府属于刻意隐瞒
而西方国家属于工作失误或无能为力?
值得深思!
多年妖魔化中国,加上共产原罪,其实他们不知道,中国现在是资本主义初级阶段
 
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我常叫共和党叫野猴子党,来形容此党极右思维的无耻
但国和党,不是一回事,对于美国还是中国,我的叫法自然是一样
注意逻辑啊

是你自己把美国和共产党相提并论,你要不然就说美国和中国,要不然说共和党/民主党和共产党。你的叫法已经带有偏见,说你标准不一难道说错了吗?你为什么不叫美帝?
 
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一个国家的总统,当由于自己的误判、自大和冷血给本国带来严重后果的时候,不是专心解决自己国家的疫情,而是通过无端质疑他国、给他国泼脏水来给自己的错误开脱。在如今文明时代,恐怕也就是川普和金正恩之流可以公开的做到了。不过,我倒是相信美国民众支持串普的热情会更高,就像北朝鲜百姓流着眼泪百分之百的支持金正恩一样,那些被蛊惑投他选票的美国选民,也会在川普吐沫横飞的美国光荣、中国丑陋的慷慨陈词中为这个“敢作敢当”的美国领路人而激动。民族仇视历来是邪恶的领导人获得“爱国”的民众支持的法宝。中国那些无知义愤的网民是,德国对犹太人是,现在的美国指责中国也不例外。

抛开这些政治和人性的丑陋,那么我来回答川普,还有一些人,为什么中国的抗疫中感染数字基本是真实的。

第一 除了湖北省,其余省份的数量极少,数字出入很小,原因如下:

1 外省市的同学,除了居家抗疫,没有恐慌,同学身边基本没有听过过熟人案例,只听过某地有一个之类的言词。如果外地数量很多,数量爆满,一定会有勇敢的民间人士或无孔不入的民主斗士暴露出来。

2 外省市派遣大量医护人员和物资支援湖北,本地疫情必然不严重。

第二 关于湖北的数字真实性

1 可以从时间点来判断可能传染人数。

从发生第一例病例,到封城那一天的时间,期间经过了多少时间,然后与其余国家从发现第一个病例,到开始封城的时间,做一个对比。通过这个对比,是基本可以得出中国的湖北数字的。湖北省人口大约 6000 万, 意大利人口也 6000 多万。

2 可以从死亡人数推断感染人数

死亡人数是非常难作假。由于意大利老龄人口大于中国,意大利的医疗资源又跟不上,所有意大利的死亡率高于平均水平可以理解。而中国的医疗水平设施在全世界是属于第一流层次的。再加上各省的力量全部出动,除了初期艰难,后期多数重症病人都可以得到及时治疗。中国小于 5% 的死亡率是基本可信。毕竟这个病自愈率也在 80%以上。

3 可以从目前已经恢复生产和正常生活判断

如果有人说,中国有大量的未经检测的感染病人。一旦恢复正常工作,必然重新在全社会投毒,立即引起新一轮爆发,而这爆发至今没有发现。如果之后两周没有爆发,则不言自明。

4 可以从武汉的熟人、家人、朋友处获得一些感受

包括我自己有在武汉的亲友们,家园网里很多武汉人、湖北人都会有自己的感觉判断。在封闭期间,很多人虽然生活诸多不便,但是很多人生活是乐观也有秩序的。大的恐慌没有出现。这些直观感受虽然不是科学数字,但会印证上面的推断。

疫情不是政治,那些事事用政治眼光看待疫情的爱国者和美粉们,可以稍微有点科学精神,醒一醒了。

如果说中国的数字是百分之百没有隐瞒,我自然不信。因为中国政治历来是粉饰太平传统。但是除了对反抗政府,宣扬多党制民主的行为中共绝不手软外,最近十几年,中国政府在民生、重大安全事故方面还是基本透明,基本有真相,有担当,尽责任。
我是武汉的,我弟弟是医生,还在抗疫一线。我在武汉的中学大学同学很幸运,都还安好。
 
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是你自己把美国和共产党相提并论,你要不然就说美国和中国,要不然说共和党/民主党和共产党。你的叫法已经带有偏见,说你标准不一难道说错了吗?你为什么不叫美帝?
美国算什么东西我需要称它为帝?
我之所以提及共匪,是因为我特指的是共匪的无耻,并没有非要把这个说法延伸到中国的意思,这算是对中国的一个美好心愿吧(无耻在匪不在人),这个说法虽然天真了些,但毕竟自己也是中国人,不好讲的太绝对。
至于为什么不单独说共和党,因为美国这次无耻的地方处处都能看见,可不仅仅是共和党,比如说佛罗里达的各种大学海滩party,让人不心烦吗?
 
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因为如果加拿大防疫部门上报人传人,特鲁多绝不敢让卫生官宣布没有人传人。他和川普的错误是,认为虽然人传人,但可以控制住,没有像韩国那样给力。
大陆以外的华人,欧美的普通人不买大陆宣传的帐,更大的原因是,你可以在这里发表跟特鲁多不一样的看法,你不会被训诫,不会被删帖。

你到微信上发表个看法试试,你告诉人家美国政府加拿大政府英国政府在救助公民为中小企业扶困,立马有人说你造谣,说他们饮鸩止渴。你说那中国政府也饮鸩止渴一下嘛,武汉人民说不定喜欢,然后,你就被删帖了。如果你经常妄议中央,你可能要被请去喝茶

在这里,你可以通过政府直播新闻发布了解情况,你可以通过各大主流媒体的报道和评论,在加上你的常识,做出基本判断。但是你对中国就没有办法了,你只能通过CCTV,新华社,而他们都姓党,你还能通过亲朋好友,可都是零散的消息,于是,你拿不到情况,你不知道危险在哪里,久了,你可能只好放弃,听党妹说啥就是啥了。这是国内大多数人的光景

老百姓常常讲,是骡子是马拉出来遛一遛。你看,人家川普就敢出来遛一遛,人民领袖就不敢,所以人家说他是骡子,他得怪自己

土农说的真对,民众言论自由是极其重要,在国外发表的言论不会被任何一个人或机构监督。美国媒体都敢跟特朗普作对,这说明其信息都是公正可信的,保证实事求是。谷歌的搜索结果比百度要真实地多,不像中国对结果的控制很严的。
 
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中国的数字作假害了很多国家,比如英国一开始看中国的数据,觉得这病毒不怎么样,致死率低,再说死一些老年人也没什么,有人提出全民免疫的方案,后来一看意大利的状况,这病毒还是很厉害的,放任的话能达到10%的死亡率,中年人和年轻人也有好多扛不过去,所以那个全民免疫的方案没法搞了,赶紧开始积极防疫

中国的死亡数字才3000多,结果武汉最近发骨灰盒,单是一家殡仪馆每天发500都要发好多天,所以殡仪馆加起来一下子要发几万个出来,这差别也太大了,10倍都不止

还有现在的0感染,其实是把好多无症状感染者不当病例,不实的宣传忽悠了好多留学生,还有国外的一些其他人回去,中国对外放风0感染,对内依然在严密防控,疫情根本就没结束
 
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土农说的真对,民众言论自由是极其重要,在国外发表的言论不会被任何一个人或机构监督。美国媒体都敢跟特朗普作对,这说明其信息都是公正可信的,保证实事求是。谷歌的搜索结果比百度要真实地多,不像中国对结果的控制很严的。


因为如果加拿大防疫部门上报人传人,特鲁多绝不敢让卫生官宣布没有人传人。他和川普的错误是,认为虽然人传人,但可以控制住,没有像韩国那样给力。
大陆以外的华人,欧美的普通人不买大陆宣传的帐,更大的原因是,你可以在这里发表跟特鲁多不一样的看法,你不会被训诫,不会被删帖。

你到微信上发表个看法试试,你告诉人家美国政府加拿大政府英国政府在救助公民为中小企业扶困,立马有人说你造谣,说他们饮鸩止渴。你说那中国政府也饮鸩止渴一下嘛,武汉人民说不定喜欢,然后,你就被删帖了。如果你经常妄议中央,你可能要被请去喝茶

在这里,你可以通过政府直播新闻发布了解情况,你可以通过各大主流媒体的报道和评论,在加上你的常识,做出基本判断。但是你对中国就没有办法了,你只能通过CCTV,新华社,而他们都姓党,你还能通过亲朋好友,可都是零散的消息,于是,你拿不到情况,你不知道危险在哪里,久了,你可能只好放弃,听党妹说啥就是啥了。这是国内大多数人的光景

老百姓常常讲,是骡子是马拉出来遛一遛。你看,人家川普就敢出来遛一遛,人民领袖就不敢,所以人家说他是骡子,他得怪自己

中国在对内政治上是有弊端的,肯定不如美国透明,民主。美国在国际关系中为了私利霸权也无耻。但是没有完美的世界,没有美国的世界可能更不可想象。曹操说,没有我曹阿不知道有几人称帝。

但就仅仅在抗疫这件事上,中国有数字隐瞒,不如加拿大透明,都是实情,但是误差通过科学推算,观察,不会很大。

中国有失误,美国也有失误。美国现在把责任往中国头上去推卸,这是流氓政治。如果换做奥巴马,或者任何一个别的总统估计都不会这样。
 
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中国在对内政治上是有弊端的,肯定不如美国透明,民主。美国在国际关系中为了私利霸权也无耻。但是没有完美的世界,没有美国的世界可能更不可想象。曹操说,没有我曹阿不知道有几人称帝。

但就仅仅在抗疫这件事上,中国有数字隐瞒,不如加拿大透明,都是实情,但是误差通过科学推算,观察,不会很大。

中国有失误,美国也有失误。美国现在把责任往中国头上去推卸,这是流氓政治。如果换做奥巴马,或者任何一个别的总统估计都不会这样。
对付一个极其凶残的流氓,不能由一群君子去。 需要另一个流氓,至少这个流氓再流氓,也有人民盯着,如果胡来,也就4年的折腾。
 
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中国的数字作假害了很多国家,比如英国一开始看中国的数据,觉得这病毒不怎么样,致死率低,再说死一些老年人也没什么,有人提出全民免疫的方案,后来一看意大利的状况,这病毒还是很厉害的,放任的话能达到10%的死亡率,中年人和年轻人也有好多扛不过去,所以那个全民免疫的方案没法搞了,赶紧开始积极防疫

中国的死亡数字才3000多,结果武汉最近发骨灰盒,单是一家殡仪馆每天发500都要发好多天,所以殡仪馆加起来一下子要发几万个出来,这差别也太大了,10倍都不止

还有现在的0感染,其实是把好多无症状感染者不当病例,不实的宣传忽悠了好多留学生,还有国外的一些其他人回去,中国对外放风0感染,对内依然在严密防控,疫情根本就没结束

对于有些谣言要去分辨.

如果武汉死四万人,百分之五的死亡率,则感染 80万。 武汉 1000 万人,也就是12 个人感染一个你信吗?也就是这个网络里的武汉人基本都得有亲人感染。

至于西方自己的失误,那么多科学家,武汉封城了,还不在乎;川普现在还着急让人民上班,你要再说是中国问题,也只有无语了。
 
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